Doyle Brunson’s Super System: A Course in Power Poker, 3rd Edition
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I have studied Sklansky, Malmuth, and Lederer and they all have the same philosohpy (Bet Good Cards, Fold Bad Ones) I followed this strategy in the beginning and found myself lasting longer in holdem games but not comming in 1st (Big Money). UNTIL I bought this book. (Brunson’s that is) I read the chapter on no Limit Holdem and went into the next holdem meetup and blew everyone away. And finally finished first. I love this book because it will have you playing a strategy that will frusterate you opponents to where they will not know what hitem
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If you are into poker and you’re serious about money, this is the book for you. Learn the basics from the pro that started it all. Great buy!!
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First of all, it comes from players, as well as theoreticians, some of whom may considered to be the best. Secondly it is a very practical book with all the maths as well as hints. Highly recommended material to anyone who loves the game.
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During the years I have red about 10 books about Hold’em but must admit Doyle Brunson’s chapter in Super System is still simply the best. You won’t need much more to start with No Limit Hold’em than this. Other books are more or less just repetition of this one.
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My husband is the poker player in this family. This book was a gift and he loves it. He even bought a highlighter for it.
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I have been playing small limit poker for over 35 years. Only within the last few years have I become an avid no-limit Texas Hold-em enthusiast. After purchasing this book approximately 1 year ago, I now call this invaluable book my poker bible. I have read the no-limit Hold-em section several times, particularly prior to a tournament. Using the aggressive playing style put forth by Doyle Brunson, as well as the poker knowledge learned from reading the book, I regularly place in the top 3 in tournaments, and often place first. The portion of the book covering “short-handed play” was particularly helpful to me. If you are serious about playing poker, this book is a must.
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Brunson’s book came out in the 70′s, long before Omaha became so popular, so it omits guidelines for this great poker game. Otherwise, the book is superb. It’s amazing how much your game will improve, even if you adopt only a few of the suggestions offered. If you play Hold ‘Em and have yet to read Brunson, you’re welcome in my games anytime.
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This book was an excellent insight into the psychology of poker. Although it is monstrous to attempt to get through due to sheer size, if you have particular games you are interested in, you can skip right to them once you get to the games section then go back later and fill in the rest. It is worthwhile to read all the games sections though, because knowing more than just Hold ‘Em is vital to being a better all around player. Brunson gives a great insight into why betters bet the way they do and after reading the book I get so much more from watching the pros on TV. Very good read.
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This is my favorite poker book of all time. It has alot of insights from odds, to game theory, to various ways to approach different hands. I would advise the book only to advanced players with significant experience and the desire to vary their play. The authors system really only works for a super agressive player who is not only extremely talented, but very disciplined. Not many people can emulate this style, and most who try will lose massive amounts of money!!! I Hope This Helps.
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This is the only Poker book you need. It’s got it all, written by the Grand Master of Texas Hold-em. It gives you easy-to-remember ideas and methods. It’s an easy read compared to most other Poker books, and the stuff they tell you to do REALLY WORKS!!
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This is the bible (small b) of poker. This was the very first book I read before I ever started playing and I am so thankful I did. And yet, it’s not directed at the absolute beginner, necessarily. It’s directed at anyone who wants to raise their skill level (with lots of work) to a pro-like level.
A beginner can follow along without trouble and master this book. I did. But one who’s played for years REALLY has a chance to shine here. Why not just master and do what the pros do? You will learn that here.
I assure you that 99% of all players you ever play with will NOT have mastered this book. If you do, you will win over time. Oh sure, many will OWN this book, but it will sit in their shelf. Becuase to become good, you must become skilled. Toss luck out the window, luck is for chumps. (Losing chumps.)
The answer to life-long winning (unless you play aganst Doyle or Mike Caro!) is mastering these guys here. Most players will never get this book. Most of those who do will never read it. Most who read it will never master it. That leaves a very small winner’s circle waiting for you to step in if you dedicate the time you need to spend. Are you willing? If you don’t wish to master the concepts in this book, then I sure would like to play against you some time in a little parlor game of high stakes poker…!
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Super system came on the sceen in 1978 under the original title: “How I made over $1,000,000 Playing Poker and has been known as the Poker Bible ever since. There is good reason for this, while other poker books taught the rules of poker, and general starting requirements, Super System introduced many to the art of outplaying, odds, and flat out stealing and back alley mugging anyone who had the nerve to sit down at “your” table. Nothing like Super System was even close prior to its publishing and there have been very few poker books since that have been so influential to poker players.
Super System 2 was released in mid-2005. While much of the information is the same, Super System 2 updates with some of today’s popular games. Some key updates are the Online Poker section, tournament sections, and Omaha sections. The biggest disappointment to me was that the No Limit Holdem section is virtually identical to the 1978 version. I would have like to see this updated. Some people have complained that the Online Poker section is just one big advertisement for Doylesroom.com. I look at it this way, they had to use a site for illustrations so why not? I enjoyed this section as it will help online poker in the long run. Plus there are some very solid advice that apply to online gaming!
Super System and Super System 2 are broken up into game sections. Doyle hand selected the authors of each section. My favorite section in both 1 and 2 are the Limit Holdem sections. Bobby Baldwin wrote the Limit Holdem section in 1978 and it was THE most important peice of poker literature I have ever read. Jennifer Harman wrote the Super System 2 Limit Holdem section and it is clearly the best section in the new version in my opinion.
Super System is not a beginner’s book and the lessons taught should not be used against bad players because they simply do not apply. These are semi-advanced concepts and require a good knowledge of the games and should be used with caution.
The Original Super System contains game sections by the following:
Draw Poker – Mike Caro
7 stud – Chip Reese
Lowball (A-5, 2-7, Razz) – Joey Hawthorne
High-Low Split – David Sklansky
Limit Holdem – Bobby Baldwin
No Limit Holdem – Doyle Brunson
Super System 2 contains the game sections by the following:
Online Poker – Doyle Brunson
Limit Holdem – Jennifer Harman
Omaha 8 or better – Bobby Baldwin
7 stud High Low 8 or better – Todd Brunson
Pot Limit Omaha – Lyle Berman
Triple Draw – Daniel Negreanu
No Limit Holdem – Doyle Brunson
Tournament Overview – Doyle Brunson
Finally, both Super System 1 and 2 are fanatasic books and should be in your poker library. If you only had the choice of buying the original or Super System 2 then I would suggest Super System 2 as it addresses today’s more popular games, besides how many times do you plan to play 5 card draw online?
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I’m a 19 year old college student and considered myself a good hold’em player. Then i heard about this book and decided to read it. Since then, i’ve been winning over $1000/semester. People may say this book is outdated, but i don’t care this is the best book i’ve read so far (out of 5). Do not do what this book says to the T, use what it teaches and mold your game from it… Books are simply roadmaps, but you are the driver. The knowledge i have learned from this book set my basic roadmap of how to play hold’em, and i feel I have made myself an incredible strategy that branches off, this is simply a must read…
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When this was first published in the seventies it caused a sensation. Immediately recognized as the most ambitious poker book ever written, it nonetheless was received with irritation by some professionals because it was believed that Doyle “Texas Dolly” Brunson and his collaborators gave away too much, thereby allowing the amateurs to catch up, thereby cutting into the professional player’s take.
There is more than a little truth to this accusation. Poker is an ever-evolving superset of games with the individual games changing over time as the players learn how one game and then another should be played. Write a revealing book and the old games disappear more quickly and the “rocks” have to learn the new game in order to continue to make a living. Today’s most important games are hold’em and seven card stud. Both are covered in this book, hold’em quite extensively.
What sets Brunson’s Super/System apart from other poker books is first the prestige and celebrity of the writers, especially Doyle himself, but also Bobby Baldwin (also a World Champion); David “Chip” Reese, Doyle’s expert on seven-card stud; Joey Hawthorne on Low-Ball; David Sklanski on Hi-Low; and Mike Caro (MJC) on draw poker. I used to play with Sklanski and MJC back in the sixties in Gardena when the only legal game in the California clubs was draw poker, both lowball and jacks or better. Sklanski has gone on to be one of the game’s great theoreticians and the author of several excellent books on poker. Caro, known as “the Mad Genius of Poker,” has formed his own “Poker University” and is partly responsible for this book’s republication, and has become quite a poker entrepreneur.
Second, there is the comprehensive coverage of the games from five card draw to no limit hold’em. Not everything is explained and some of the tricks are held back. Reese in particular, in his chapter on seven-card stud is somewhat reticent. He presents a tight strategy that is sound but withholds more aggressive strategies that, in the proper hands, would make more money.
By the way, “no limit” really means table stakes since you are NOT, as is sometimes seen in the movies, allowed to go to the bank and get some money when you hold a killer hand! In fact, no limit is really no different than pot limit expect that instead of being restricted to the amount of the pot when betting, one can, if one so chooses, push in one’s entire stack. THAT does make for some interesting psychological situations! One of Doyle Brunson’s main points in this book is the huge difference between set limit poker as played in the clubs and indeed as played for the so-called world championship, and no limit poker as played by the rich and the top professionals. The latter game is much more of a psychological game in that you can lose pot after small pot and yet come out ahead by winning one great big monster, and also because it takes a lot of nerve to either call a huge bet or to make a huge bet. Furthermore as you’re playing along you have to be aware that at any moment the pot can suddenly mushroom to gigantic proportions. Because of these psychological factors, some of the top players at limit have never been able to make a satisfactory jump to the no limit game. In Brunson’s case, he actually was adept at no limit long before he became a top limit player.
Third, there are the brilliant caricatures of the players by Stan Hunt. Just to see those again in print is worth the price of the book.
Fourth are the poker odds and statistics by Mike Caro. Believe me they are completely accurate. I and a number of others players checked and rechecked them, hoping to catch MJC in an error. No such luck! I was a little disappointed that Mike chose to recall an odds story that showed him in the right, because I, among a very small number of people, actually did beat him out of a twenty dollar bet in the sixties on some odds we were discussing. Of course Mike would “give away” money just to support his carefully cultivated image as a “madman.” One of his most notorious “plays” at draw was to pretend to have a pat hand, raise the opener, and then not bet after the draw and just show down his nothing hand, thereby giving away the pot. I mean eyebrows raised and heads shook incomprehensibly at this totally “irrational” play. Yet it worked because people then would call him when he really had something.
Caro was also an expert on poker tells. He wrote a book on the subject. He would, when playing, do parodies of the other players by betting and acting as they would in an exaggerated way. Sometimes he actually did unconscious parodies of himself.
Doyle Brunson on the other hand loved the psychological struggle and just being in action. In his prime he was arguably the world’s best player at both limit and no limit hold’em. He had nerves of steel and an intensely competitive nature and a deep obsessive love of the game. He overpowered his opponents with a constant energy that was always, always pushing. He had a few tricks and his knowledge of the game was among the best, but perhaps his greatest gift was his ability to bet when he knew the other guy would toss in.
What you can learn from this book about poker is really almost priceless. Even though this book is definitely dated (and today’s stars are a different breed) nonetheless there is wealth of information here for the casual as well as the professional player. This is, in my opinion, still the best how-to book on poker ever written.
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We live in a society where everything has to be the latest model, and where the new is always considered superior to the old. However, Super System is a prime example of seventies technology outperforming the recent releases of the twenty-first century. I read the book all the way through simply due to my curiosity about poker. Personally though, Hold ‘Em’s the only game that I play, so I have reread the 165 pages concerning it over four times thus far; which is quite a statement considering that I bought it in September of 2004. Both chapters on Hold ‘Em are excellent. The Limit one was written by Bobby Baldwin, and the No Limit one was written by Lord Doyle himself.
I have to say, despite all the flash and flair exuded by today’s hip players, if there was only one pro I could meet, it would definitely have to be Doyle Brunson. I admire his story and also treasure the advice he issues on tactics and strategy.
I’m sorry that Doyle had to change his style due to the publication of Super System, but I am very grateful that he wrote the book. Studying his suggestions have helped me become a more aggressive and stronger player. I was a rock for too long. I think that you’ll continuously be saying to yourself as you peruse it, “Yes, yes, that’ll work.” It really will.
Overall, even if you’re not interested in draw, stud, lowball, or high-low split, Doyle’s autobiographical essay, and his general poker strategy are must reads. This volume retailed for 100 bucks twenty-six years ago, and, for less than 20 dollars a copy, it’s a steal.
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If you’re a poker player and you haven’t read this book then just remember, all the other players around you have. It’s a great book particularly Chip Reese’s section on stud. The classic chapter, Doyle’s No Limit musings is also a must read for serious players. However, a few things should be noted by any reader not wanting to lose half their bankroll in the first hour after digesting the material. 1. Doyle is famous for his uncanny reading ability. When he talks about being willing to “take the worst hand sometimes” he doesn’t mean that you should just start pushing all in any time you flop a gut shot draw. 2. For his whole adult life he’s played in the highest stakes games on Earth. Many of the concepts about aggression only apply if your opponenets are willing to fold certain hands. In uber Low Limit poker with unskilled fish abound it’s extremely difficult to apply Doyle’s concepts. 3. The game has changed alot since
Doyle’s day when most pro’s considered pocket queens to be “a small pair”. In other words relating to #2 on my list, semi bluffing as he teaches it is a much trickier art than it used to be. Although this is a great book, ultimately it will only help you if learn how to read players and not just words.
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My favorite thing about this book is Doyle’s conversational style. He seems like an all-around great guy.
Lots of cool stories in this book, along with the setup and rules for several different varieties of poker.
Primarily what I took from this book is an aggressive style that probably does better in a *real* poker tournament/ring game than an online poker tournament/ring game. People tend not to notice or care how you play in an online game. In an online game there are far more showdowns than in a *real* poker game. So you lose some of the benefits of playing an aggressive style.
That said, you’ll never look at suited connectors again when Doyle teaches you how to play them.
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I can’t even begin to say enough good things about this book. I concentrate on playing texas hold em, which is only one of the many games covered in this book. While this book is nearly three decades old, its contents are invaluable. My game has improved ten fold. Since reading it I have been on a constant winning swing. You can learn many valuable tips with this book that will help you win more money and lose minimal amounts when the luck is against you. I recommend this book to ANY serious poker player. It’s a must have. They call it the Poker Bible for a reason. GET IT.
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Any serious poker player needs to read this book, it includes the fundamentals of poker, and just like any other sport, the fundamentals are key.
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The holy grail of poker books. Doyle widely considered the greatest poker player published this book in 1979 and it’s still relevant in everyway possible. If you are starting out, get this book! You’ll see things and approach the game in a way you wouldn’t imagine until you read this. Veterans read it, then read it again. It’s really impossible to carry his play over into the online poker world, but learn the concepts that Doyle preaches (even if you can’t play as aggressive as the great Doyle) and you’ll be a better player when you’re done with this book
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Simply known as the “bible” of texas hold’em poker, this book must’ve been read by all of the professional poker players that you see on tv nowadays. The basics that it covers is fundamentally sound and the added nuance and commentary provided by legendary poker player Doyle Brunson may seem trivial but once you play the game regularly and encounter those situations, you will have a new appreciation of the finer points of this great book.
As most of you all know, the game of poker has become exceedingly popular over the last few years with the national coverage on ESPN fueling the demand for more insight into this complicated and addictive game. The strategies outlined in this book was written in another era where poker was played in back allies and smoky rooms. With the influx of players of all nationalities comes the high variance in style of play and “skill level”. Like Brunson says, there is no concrete way to way for there is much intuition and instinct involved in this game that only comes with experience. The more aggressive and high risk players have hampered the effectiveness of some of the strategies mentioned in the book.
However, with all that said, this is still a must read because it contains much more than technical information and statistics. It gives you a feel of the game from a person who’s been playing it and playing it WELL for all of his life.
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I’m a freqent poker player and for all those who would like to play this book is an absolute must have. and for those who already play this book is also an absolute must have and desk reference.
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Great book. Goes in depth into the analysis of all forms of poker. Goes over betting schemes, tells, and great poker plays. Definitely worth all the praise and will help imrpove your game.
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A few years ago while sitting at home sick, I happened to turn on ESPN and saw a no-limit hold’em game. I believe it was a head’s up game between humberto brenes and erik seidel. Nonetheless, after watching the two battle for an hour, I was hooked. I talked to a friend who I knew played poker the next day and he told me to read this book super system by Doyle Brunson. I tried reading through the sections, but couldn’t take in much of it simply because I didn’t understand all that went into the game. Soon after, I proceeded to start playing 2/4 and 3/6 hold’em at a local casino. I spent the next year losing 90% of the time. It was after that year that I re-read super system and truly began to appreciate all the knowledge it offered. I never once thought about tells, about positioning and how it related to raising and calling, or simply what constituted a playable hand from a horrible hand from a great hand. After I had re-read the book, I had a firm grasp on the game and began to win consistently. Sometimes a mere $40 or $50, sometimes hundreds. Buy this book, play a little on your own for very low stakes and then read whatever section it is that interests you. If you have an interest in poker, my experience with myself and others suggests this is the best way to go about learning the game effectively.
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This is THEE Poker book to purchase. Pratically all poker books today are perhaps descended from this mammoth of a book. The real gems are the chapers on Limit and NL hold’em, classics in their own right. But perhaps the most overlooked chapter is Reese’s chapter on 7-stud. It’s not to long, and I feel Reese could have explained even more, but this chapter itself is worth more than many 7 stud books out there.
Get this book!!! Reading and absorbing it will put you on a plateau above players who have never heard of this book. Seriously, play your style now, then read Super/System, and you will wonder why you were ignorant enough to play hands that off the flop will almost always draw dead. Read it, and your game jitters will go down, because Super System will give you immeasureable confidence at any poker table.
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Muslims have the Koran, Christians have the Bible, and poker players have Super System. I simply CANNOT believe that this book is so inexpensive! With all the overpriced books out there, here is one that is actually MUCH lower in price than it should be.
Everyone who is anyone in the poker world has studied Super System. Does that say enough about it?
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The foundation of poker is in this book and is explained by the best there is there was and ever will be. Class dismissed.
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Despite this book being written 25 years ago, it is still the best poker book ever written. Doyle is a genius!
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When it was written it was called the greatest poker book ever written, now despite the fact that some people are claiming that the book has been passed by the game, there’s still a lot of really great value in this book, not to mention a great look into the legacy of the game.
Not surprisingly, the best part of the book is Brunson’s chapter on limit Hold’em. First of all, he’s the most engaging voice in the book. You can almost hear the Texas Dolly’s famous drawl. Admittedly, the game has caught up a little–because of this book, in many cases–but SuperSystem still is a great guide for how to play solid, aggressive poker, although it’s advice that has to be taken cautiously, since playing too aggressively without safeguards can lead to substantial losses.
Despite the title, however, the Super System talked about in this book is not really a system of play. It’s not a specific structure of play, but more like a set of ideas or guidelines on how to play poker like Doyle. It’s kind of like sitting down for a good conversation about poker with legends like Doyle, Mike Caro, David Sklansky, etc. You come away with wisdom, but you still have a lot of work to do on your own.
Still well worth the cover price.
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The standard by which all others are judged and none have yet to reach.